I pay £200 for the privilege of going on bootcamp with Sasha (or Alex as normal people call him), one of the faces off LSS. It’s with Ace_PUA (real name Marcus) as well.
It starts with Sasha’s talk about his game. This is cool and very funny, but it’s really his sense of humour and character and really needs to be adapted to each individual’s character. At least I took notes this time (unlike at Sasha’s talk) so I have a record.
Then we go out and it’s forced approaching time. This is the bit that I’m good at – approaching when I’m told to. I have some AA but I can ignore this and clear my head when I have to.
There’s an older guy who has some limiting beliefs about being overheard and such. I help him out (who cares? They don’t know you, you don’t know them, you’ll never see them again) and he gets it.
Ace gets us to lie down on the ground in the middle of Covent Garden and the second time we get other random people to do it with us, and a bunch of people take our photograph.
I find it hard to relate to Sasha and Ace as people, it’s as though they’re putting on a performance or something. I just don’t click with them and I feel they’re holding something back. Though I think Sasha’s a very funny person.
The final feedback they give me is to stay in set and not eject. I know this. I didn’t expect this for £200 pounds I’m afraid. Lesson learnt I guess.
Of the sets I opened, the most notable were a French girl that I opened in Covent Garden with “You’re the second cutest girl I’ve seen all day, I just had to talk to you” which works well. She’s really cute and we have a nice chat. I try to number close and she takes my number, though no call yet. Still, I tried.
In Soho Square I opened an East European chick with Sasha’s opener of “Are you drawing a sketch of me?” using a Charisma-from-Sarging.com style tone of voice (i.e. very fun and playful). It hooks and I start talking to both her and the girl sitting next to her (they don’t know each other). I get into a very surreal and fun conversation with both of them that lasts for a good while. The other (English) girl takes my number but no dice from her either. I was thinking about closing the East European girl but at that point Ace and Sasha joins in as we have to move on and interrupts my flow, so I can’t.
I also open a Ukrainian girl on the tube who is the hottest girl we’ve seen all day, but it goes nowhere. But James was right – Ukrainians are the hottest girls out there.
Later on I meet up with Liam and Fargo for a quick drink. We agree we can do the same thing as this bootcamp with each other, without having to pay £200 for the privilege.
Wednesday, 6 August 2008
Noticing Small Developments
So I meet up with Jake to do some daygame on a Friday. I’m knackered as I couldn’t sleep last night but I plough through. I also used my non-sleeping time to learn the state capitals of all of the American states. I’ve managed to remember most of them, and we use this as a routine from time to time throughout the day.
Jake wants an incentive so he gives me £100 and every time he opens a girl he gets £10 back. This takes the pressure off me so I open a few girls here and there while he’s in set. It also puts me in the instructor frame which gives me more confidence in general.
One girl I open is in Leicester Square on the grass listening to an iPod. I use the iPod opener and she’s listening to Coldplay. We talk about the new album and other things for a bit. It’s all good though I don’t stay in long.
I try to get Jake to open a girl taking a photo in Trafalgar Square. He won’t so I do instead, using “Are you a professional photographer?” We talk about Nelson for a while and the lions / dogs at the base. Again it’s all good despite the conversation not being long.
That evening I meet up with the regulars. We go to Tiger Tiger as a change from Jewel but it’s shit. We open a few sets. Liam and I open two South African Indian girls with the American state capitals opener and it hooks really well. We divide and conquer and Liam number closes his girl. Both girls are really into us – my one wants to join my band as a singer! – but mine’s not that hot so I don’t bother to number close.
I think I get blown out a couple of times but it doesn’t matter. Jordan’s having a tough time so I go instructor on his ass and get him to open. It works.
We split from Tiger Tiger as it’s shit and go to Jewel instead. Again we get a couple of blow outs. Liam and I open a large group of girls with the states opener again and I end up hooking with one of the girls, who works in HR for HSBC. I have a chat for a bit then eject, and as I do so she says, you can come back later if you want. I should have number closed again but she wasn’t quite floating my boat, though having said that she wasn’t bad, she was a borderline case as far as I was concerned!
As mentioned in my July review it’s after this night that I notice I have the alpha body language down, and I really don’t care about getting blown out any more. This is a really, really cool development and makes me very happy. Later Liam and Fargo mention to me that they can’t tell if my sets are going well or badly any more from my reactions, which shows that I have become more detached from the outcome. Good progress.
Jake wants an incentive so he gives me £100 and every time he opens a girl he gets £10 back. This takes the pressure off me so I open a few girls here and there while he’s in set. It also puts me in the instructor frame which gives me more confidence in general.
One girl I open is in Leicester Square on the grass listening to an iPod. I use the iPod opener and she’s listening to Coldplay. We talk about the new album and other things for a bit. It’s all good though I don’t stay in long.
I try to get Jake to open a girl taking a photo in Trafalgar Square. He won’t so I do instead, using “Are you a professional photographer?” We talk about Nelson for a while and the lions / dogs at the base. Again it’s all good despite the conversation not being long.
That evening I meet up with the regulars. We go to Tiger Tiger as a change from Jewel but it’s shit. We open a few sets. Liam and I open two South African Indian girls with the American state capitals opener and it hooks really well. We divide and conquer and Liam number closes his girl. Both girls are really into us – my one wants to join my band as a singer! – but mine’s not that hot so I don’t bother to number close.
I think I get blown out a couple of times but it doesn’t matter. Jordan’s having a tough time so I go instructor on his ass and get him to open. It works.
We split from Tiger Tiger as it’s shit and go to Jewel instead. Again we get a couple of blow outs. Liam and I open a large group of girls with the states opener again and I end up hooking with one of the girls, who works in HR for HSBC. I have a chat for a bit then eject, and as I do so she says, you can come back later if you want. I should have number closed again but she wasn’t quite floating my boat, though having said that she wasn’t bad, she was a borderline case as far as I was concerned!
As mentioned in my July review it’s after this night that I notice I have the alpha body language down, and I really don’t care about getting blown out any more. This is a really, really cool development and makes me very happy. Later Liam and Fargo mention to me that they can’t tell if my sets are going well or badly any more from my reactions, which shows that I have become more detached from the outcome. Good progress.
First time in Sports Café
So it’s a Tuesday. I haven’t made any plans to meet up with anyone this evening, but the beauty of the LSS means that someone has put up a post inviting everyone out. There’s a bit of a risk with these things due to intimidation and how well I’ll get on with the guys but I decide to go anyway.
I meet up with Christian, the organiser, and the first thing that strikes me is that he has a crazy moustache! It’s not every day that you see a hairy lip like that! Anyway we meet up with a bunch of other people and go to the venue. Over the next few minutes the group seems to increase non stop until there’s about ten of us. Then I get a message from Jason who was with me on the bootcamp I did on Saturday. Turns out he’s in the same venue. I go and meet him and he’s with about five other guys as well! The night is turning into a monster!
To be honest the venue isn’t at its best. It’s not that busy and there are more guys than girls. Apparently normally (during term time) there are more girls than guys, and it’s very busy.
At this stage in the evening there’s only one group of three girls and so Jason and I go and approach them. Jason opens them and they’re really friendly, they’re celebrating quitting their jobs as bartenders. Jason dominates initially, he can talk the hind legs off a horse, so I’m just sticking in there. We sit down eventually. After a while I manage to split off one of the girls so I can talk to her and leave Jason to talk to everyone else. I start talking about normal stuff but quickly manage to move it on to more interesting topics of conversation like travelling, hopes and dreams and so on.
It’s going well but then the main girl that Jason’s speaking to splits off and then distracts my girl and kind of cuts us out in a way. I think Jason had just been spitting game and hadn’t progressed the conversation to more comfort type stuff. Either way we’re out of there.
Later we go and talk to three more girls by a window, and we’re getting no joy from them. Within a minute a couple of guys come back from the bar to join them, so it’s clear why. We eject; that’s just the way it is!
With Christian we open a large group of Americans. He puts his foot in it by asking some Asian girls if they’re sisters – it comes across like he’s saying they all look the same, which doesn’t go down well! I change tack as quickly as I can, and end up doing the American state capitals routine, which is just a small DHV but quite fun. The most difficult one was Maine, which is Augusta. But there’s too many of them for us to hold their attention and we kinda lost it from the start.
One interesting thing that Christian tells me about himself is that about four years ago he went out sarging for the first time with some of the guys that are now the top PUAs in the UK, London Soul being the only one that I can remember now but there were others. But he was there when they were all chumps, and now they are gods amongst men (or rather top instructors for the larger companies). Christian didn’t focus on sarging as much as them over that period so he is still at a basic level. But it shows what can be achieved. Have faith in the process.
After that I get talking to one of Jason’s friends who can’t open, trying to get him to. I can’t help him but I inadvertently get myself out of state so I find it hard to open. We move to the dancefloor and I’m just not feeling it, so I check out a bit early. It’s a bit lame of me, and I could have easily spent another half an hour getting into state and having a bit of dance. Lesson learned.
On Monday I met up with Paul who does NLP training and he encouraged me to review sarging sessions using the following format, so here it is:
What did I do well?
I meet up with Christian, the organiser, and the first thing that strikes me is that he has a crazy moustache! It’s not every day that you see a hairy lip like that! Anyway we meet up with a bunch of other people and go to the venue. Over the next few minutes the group seems to increase non stop until there’s about ten of us. Then I get a message from Jason who was with me on the bootcamp I did on Saturday. Turns out he’s in the same venue. I go and meet him and he’s with about five other guys as well! The night is turning into a monster!
To be honest the venue isn’t at its best. It’s not that busy and there are more guys than girls. Apparently normally (during term time) there are more girls than guys, and it’s very busy.
At this stage in the evening there’s only one group of three girls and so Jason and I go and approach them. Jason opens them and they’re really friendly, they’re celebrating quitting their jobs as bartenders. Jason dominates initially, he can talk the hind legs off a horse, so I’m just sticking in there. We sit down eventually. After a while I manage to split off one of the girls so I can talk to her and leave Jason to talk to everyone else. I start talking about normal stuff but quickly manage to move it on to more interesting topics of conversation like travelling, hopes and dreams and so on.
It’s going well but then the main girl that Jason’s speaking to splits off and then distracts my girl and kind of cuts us out in a way. I think Jason had just been spitting game and hadn’t progressed the conversation to more comfort type stuff. Either way we’re out of there.
Later we go and talk to three more girls by a window, and we’re getting no joy from them. Within a minute a couple of guys come back from the bar to join them, so it’s clear why. We eject; that’s just the way it is!
With Christian we open a large group of Americans. He puts his foot in it by asking some Asian girls if they’re sisters – it comes across like he’s saying they all look the same, which doesn’t go down well! I change tack as quickly as I can, and end up doing the American state capitals routine, which is just a small DHV but quite fun. The most difficult one was Maine, which is Augusta. But there’s too many of them for us to hold their attention and we kinda lost it from the start.
One interesting thing that Christian tells me about himself is that about four years ago he went out sarging for the first time with some of the guys that are now the top PUAs in the UK, London Soul being the only one that I can remember now but there were others. But he was there when they were all chumps, and now they are gods amongst men (or rather top instructors for the larger companies). Christian didn’t focus on sarging as much as them over that period so he is still at a basic level. But it shows what can be achieved. Have faith in the process.
After that I get talking to one of Jason’s friends who can’t open, trying to get him to. I can’t help him but I inadvertently get myself out of state so I find it hard to open. We move to the dancefloor and I’m just not feeling it, so I check out a bit early. It’s a bit lame of me, and I could have easily spent another half an hour getting into state and having a bit of dance. Lesson learned.
On Monday I met up with Paul who does NLP training and he encouraged me to review sarging sessions using the following format, so here it is:
What did I do well?
- Stayed in set with the bartender girls even though I felt like ejecting and had a good conversation with one of them for a good while, not just normal conversation, talking about life and dreams and so on.
- Open more sets, not get so in my head after talking to people who can’t open.
- I should have had more physical contact with the bartender girls.
- Stick in with the dancefloor game instead of going home.
- Nothing specific other than going to Sports Café and meeting up with about 20 new wings that I haven’t met before.
Tuesday, 5 August 2008
July in Review
OK so now that I’ve completed the field reports for up to the end of July, it’s time to check in with my goals, review the month in general, and set some goals for August.
July Goals
By the end of July I will have number closed 15 times, 5 times with girls who are 7 or above
I have increased my number closing to 4 this month, but not 15 times. A 400% increase on June though so that’s something.
By the end of July I will have been to ten new venues for sarging, and have put together a list of venues for each day of the week that has the hottest girls
Partial success! I don’t know or remember if I have visited 10 new venues, but I do have a list of venues for each day of the week:
Mon: Tiger Tiger
Tue: Sports Café or Zoo Bar
Wed: Cheapskates or Salsa
Thu: Roadhouse (though I would like to find another one)
Fri: Jewel or Jrink
Sat: Brick Lane and I want to try Favela Chic
Sun: Pitcher and Piano in Fulham (still to try)
By the end of July I will have opened ten girls hotter than a 7.
To be honest I haven’t been keeping close track of this, but I’ve open loads of girls and most of them have been 7 or over, so I’ll count this as a success.
By the end of June I will have researched and implemented how to turn my conversation seductive, and used it five times.
Haven’t really done this, need to work on it.
By the end of July I will have kiss closed ten girls.
I have kiss closed no girls, so failure here
By the end of July I will have gone sarging solo five times.
I have gone solo sarging three times, but goddam it’s difficult.
Other stuff
Here are some general points that I have realised over the last month:
July Goals
By the end of July I will have number closed 15 times, 5 times with girls who are 7 or above
I have increased my number closing to 4 this month, but not 15 times. A 400% increase on June though so that’s something.
By the end of July I will have been to ten new venues for sarging, and have put together a list of venues for each day of the week that has the hottest girls
Partial success! I don’t know or remember if I have visited 10 new venues, but I do have a list of venues for each day of the week:
Mon: Tiger Tiger
Tue: Sports Café or Zoo Bar
Wed: Cheapskates or Salsa
Thu: Roadhouse (though I would like to find another one)
Fri: Jewel or Jrink
Sat: Brick Lane and I want to try Favela Chic
Sun: Pitcher and Piano in Fulham (still to try)
By the end of July I will have opened ten girls hotter than a 7.
To be honest I haven’t been keeping close track of this, but I’ve open loads of girls and most of them have been 7 or over, so I’ll count this as a success.
By the end of June I will have researched and implemented how to turn my conversation seductive, and used it five times.
Haven’t really done this, need to work on it.
By the end of July I will have kiss closed ten girls.
I have kiss closed no girls, so failure here
By the end of July I will have gone sarging solo five times.
I have gone solo sarging three times, but goddam it’s difficult.
Other stuff
Here are some general points that I have realised over the last month:
- I became aware of my constant need for love and attention, I’ve dealt with it and I am more at peace with myself as a result.
- I have read some of Psychcybernetics and used it with good effect. Need to continue with this.
- I have improved by ability to force myself to open – like I have no control over my legs. Need to continue with this.
- I have had four number closes and two follow up attempts, but no responses so this is the next area to work on.
- I am feeling more confident in general. Seen an improvement in my body language and posture. I am caring less about getting blown out.
- I have been attending talks and bootcamps which have helped a lot. I’ll continue to do this.
- Definite improvement seen, which is really great.
- Number close 15 times
- Kiss close five times
- Go on three “Day Twos”
- Get laid once
- Go out six times a week at least (day or night game)
- Research and implement how to turn my conversation seductive, and use it five times.
- Go sarging solo five times
- Open at least five people each session and stay in set for at least five minutes once successfully opened.
- Get some routines down to keep in conversation in set
- Continue to use the Psychocybernetics visualisation techniques
- Continue to attend LSS talks and bootcamps as costs allow (i.e. mainly the cheapest ones!)
Logistical State Crash
So for Thursday after the failure of Zoo Bar I revert back to the tried and tested Thursday night location of Roadhouse, with Steve who’s up for something tonight. However there’s a logistical error. I arrive at 9 and Steve is delayed. No problem, I’m in state so I just walk around a bit and try and sum up the courage to open some people on the street. But solo street game is a real chore for me currently and I get nowhere. Unknown to me Steve arrives and goes into the club. Meanwhile my state completely crashes as I can’t open on the street and I feel crap. I think I ask one person for the time.
Forty minutes later I eventually get inside and find Steve. We sit down and have a chat for a bit. While Steve is at the bar three Brazilian girls come and sit down next to us. The one nearest is super hot – like a cross between Selma Hayek and Penelope Cruz. With a bit of Nelly Furtado thrown in for good measure. She’s hotter than hot.
I start a conversation with her and talk about normal conversation. I find out she’s from Brazil and other things that I can’t remember now. But once again it goes nowhere. I need to up my conversation game. I should have just talked about random shit I guess. Anything that came to my mind. But I stalled. Steve came back and I continued with him.
Soon afterwards the band started playing so I went to watch them, as I enjoy it so much. But the noise made it hard to open so I didn’t. I think I got a bit of eye contact from some girls, but I didn’t do anything about it. At one point I was pinched on the ass, but some girl’s handbag had been jabbing itself in my back and I was a bit annoyed, so I didn’t react well.
There were a couple of groups of girls that I could have perhaps opened but given my low state and general ordinariness I didn’t do anything. I called it a night at that point.
Lessons learned
Forty minutes later I eventually get inside and find Steve. We sit down and have a chat for a bit. While Steve is at the bar three Brazilian girls come and sit down next to us. The one nearest is super hot – like a cross between Selma Hayek and Penelope Cruz. With a bit of Nelly Furtado thrown in for good measure. She’s hotter than hot.
I start a conversation with her and talk about normal conversation. I find out she’s from Brazil and other things that I can’t remember now. But once again it goes nowhere. I need to up my conversation game. I should have just talked about random shit I guess. Anything that came to my mind. But I stalled. Steve came back and I continued with him.
Soon afterwards the band started playing so I went to watch them, as I enjoy it so much. But the noise made it hard to open so I didn’t. I think I got a bit of eye contact from some girls, but I didn’t do anything about it. At one point I was pinched on the ass, but some girl’s handbag had been jabbing itself in my back and I was a bit annoyed, so I didn’t react well.
There were a couple of groups of girls that I could have perhaps opened but given my low state and general ordinariness I didn’t do anything. I called it a night at that point.
Lessons learned
- Make sure you make clear arrangements with wings if you’re waiting for them outside the Roadhouse
- Roadhouse is hard to open once the band starts.
- I need to find something else to do if solo street game isn’t working for me
- I need to improvise things to say when I run out of conversation in set
- I need to plough through low state and somehow get myself opening again
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